Comments on: Kiefer’s Bodyguard Threatens Cameraman http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/ BODYGUARD CAREERS is an informational site with the purpose of providing bodyguards with all the information and tools necessary to succeed in the executive protection industry. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:27:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Presently Touring http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-143210 Presently Touring Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:57:03 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-143210 Wow. He shouldn't have stopped. He should have spoken more assertively, and loudly. Paparazzi is easily embarassed by the "NO"!!!!!, "MOVE BACK IMMEDIATELY" yell. It works ninety percent of the time. In my opinion, this man was not a bodyguard, he was just a friend who was taking on the position at that time. Mr. S should talk to him about doing so, because him stopping, caused more of a stink than them walking by a jerk with a camera, who would only follow for a few minutes, maximum. There are things to take in account. 1. The person with the camera may not have been alone. 2. The person who is portrayed as the bodyguard may just be a good friend. 3. This person obviously has no training. 4. We don't know if the person with the camera had approached, or followed perviously, and/or verbally heckled Mr. S. 5. The location is unknown, as Mr. S could have been on a personal mission, and made the statement to his companion that he was upset at the cameraman causing his friend to react in a certain manor. And there are so many more things that we could say are wrong. The truth of the matter is, he lost sight of Mr. S. If you notice, during the conversation with the cameraman, he quickly glanced to visually identify where Mr S. continued to walk off to. My thought about this situation Last but not least, if your primary wants to live, your primary should learn to never walk off, and only run if there is a life and death situation. They should remain with you, as they are your eyes as well. Wow.
He shouldn’t have stopped. He should have spoken more assertively, and loudly. Paparazzi is easily embarassed by the “NO”!!!!!, “MOVE BACK IMMEDIATELY” yell. It works ninety percent of the time. In my opinion, this man was not a bodyguard, he was just a friend who was taking on the position at that time. Mr. S should talk to him about doing so, because him stopping, caused more of a stink than them walking by a jerk with a camera, who would only follow for a few minutes, maximum. There are things to take in account.
1. The person with the camera may not have been alone.

2. The person who is portrayed as the bodyguard may just be a good friend.

3. This person obviously has no training.

4. We don’t know if the person with the camera had approached, or followed perviously, and/or verbally heckled Mr. S.
5. The location is unknown, as Mr. S could have been on a personal mission, and made the statement to his companion that he was upset at the cameraman causing his friend to react in a certain manor.

And there are so many more things that we could say are wrong. The truth of the matter is, he lost sight of Mr. S. If you notice, during the conversation with the cameraman, he quickly glanced to visually identify where Mr S. continued to walk off to. My thought about this situation
Last but not least, if your primary wants to live, your primary should learn to never walk off, and only run if there is a life and death situation. They should remain with you, as they are your eyes as well.

]]> By: Lance http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-143107 Lance Tue, 16 Dec 2008 16:49:09 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-143107 This was truley an incredible protective faux pas Ive been in the same postion with my clientes regarding the paparazzi and to watch someone do exactly the opposite of what we do is concerning.Too much talk ,too much time, too much distance you guys take checks?!! This was truley an incredible protective faux pas Ive been in the same postion with my clientes regarding the paparazzi and to watch someone do exactly the opposite of what we do is concerning.Too much talk ,too much time, too much distance
you guys take checks?!!

]]> By: David Camden http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-142760 David Camden Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:36:37 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-142760 It is obvious this individual is not a Protection Specialist. You never leave your client Protection 101. It really hurt my feelings we have such people who have no idea how to protect a client and they are receiving pay for their mistakes. I give $15.00 to have this person trained Ha! Ha! David Camden It is obvious this individual is not a Protection Specialist. You never leave your client Protection 101. It really hurt my feelings we have such people who have no idea how to protect a client and they are receiving pay for their mistakes.

I give $15.00 to have this person trained Ha! Ha!

David Camden

]]> By: Jeff http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-135106 Jeff Wed, 17 Sep 2008 17:42:29 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-135106 I haven't been in protection for a few years now, but I did several years with mostly musicians. On a relatively uncrowded street, why not just smile and say, "Not right now, thank you," place your body between the subject and the principle and KEEP MOVING? Too many problems are created by allowing an engagement, which will lead to a confrontation, which will lead to principle attracting way too much attention to himself. The problem is two-fold: the principle wants the attention and the agent has an ego. Either spells trouble. I haven’t been in protection for a few years now, but I did several years with mostly musicians. On a relatively uncrowded street, why not just smile and say, “Not right now, thank you,” place your body between the subject and the principle and KEEP MOVING? Too many problems are created by allowing an engagement, which will lead to a confrontation, which will lead to principle attracting way too much attention to himself. The problem is two-fold: the principle wants the attention and the agent has an ego. Either spells trouble.

]]> By: Scott http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-129815 Scott Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:16:40 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-129815 I watched the video and did so just like others before reading the comments, I picked up on about everything you all did. Wow, I might actually look into this as a career.. I never realized that when I escorted friends from clubs, drunk, prior to or after fights (get them out safely before police arrive), I was acting as EP not a Bodyguard!! I have had girl friends, who would call me later in the night after they had been drinking, to come and hang out with them and take them home after they were done. I asked one why and she told me it was because she knew I would never let her leave with a somebody she shouldn't, let her drive, and that I would get her home, tuck her in (no sex ever), and leave her safely in her home. That's not to say I didn't have a few nights with a few friends, who had aquired new "Friends" who thought the girls should go home with them... Thanks for the insight into a new career! I watched the video and did so just like others before reading the comments, I picked up on about everything you all did. Wow, I might actually look into this as a career.. I never realized that when I escorted friends from clubs, drunk, prior to or after fights (get them out safely before police arrive), I was acting as EP not a Bodyguard!! I have had girl friends, who would call me later in the night after they had been drinking, to come and hang out with them and take them home after they were done. I asked one why and she told me it was because she knew I would never let her leave with a somebody she shouldn’t, let her drive, and that I would get her home, tuck her in (no sex ever), and leave her safely in her home.

That’s not to say I didn’t have a few nights with a few friends, who had aquired new “Friends” who thought the girls should go home with them… Thanks for the insight into a new career!

]]> By: B. Adams http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-126790 B. Adams Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:52:48 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-126790 This guy is exactly the type of "Knuckle-Dragger" that has made it so difficult for the pay scale in our industry to advance to where it should be. He is nearly the perfect personification of a "Bodyguard". Sadly, choosing this kind of untrained personnel is very common within entertainment as well as professional sports details. I also see quite a bit of off duty and retired police officers being used in corporate and individual executive security. This has it's own list of possible pifalls. As far as Mr. Southerland's security...For all intents and purposes, he has none. This guy is is likely to get him hurt or sued. The camera man was actually very polite and quite calm. The BG should have said maybe 3 words to him, if any. The BG engaged the camera man verbally as well as physically and while doing so turned his back on his client and lost continuous visual. He did nothing correctly and for thirty seconds, doubled his client's threat level. Not only are we responsible for the physical safety of our client but it is also important to remember that we must safeguard their image and reputations. Sorry for the rant. This frustrates me. This guy is exactly the type of “Knuckle-Dragger” that has made it so difficult for the pay scale in our industry to advance to where it should be. He is nearly the perfect personification of a “Bodyguard”. Sadly, choosing this kind of untrained personnel is very common within entertainment as well as professional sports details. I also see quite a bit of off duty and retired police officers being used in corporate and individual executive security. This has it’s own list of possible pifalls. As far as Mr. Southerland’s security…For all intents and purposes, he has none. This guy is is likely to get him hurt or sued. The camera man was actually very polite and quite calm. The BG should have said maybe 3 words to him, if any. The BG engaged the camera man verbally as well as physically and while doing so turned his back on his client and lost continuous visual. He did nothing correctly and for thirty seconds, doubled his client’s threat level. Not only are we responsible for the physical safety of our client but it is also important to remember that we must safeguard their image and reputations. Sorry for the rant. This frustrates me.

]]> By: Cyrus http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-70000 Cyrus Mon, 24 Mar 2008 19:25:44 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-70000 There is a clear difference between bodyguards and executive protection agents. This guy might make a great bullet magnet should a potential attacker need some deterrence. However, what Mr. Sutherland needed was a professional with some public relations training. Not just the ability to fight but to think. Training can improve reaction but not intelligence. No donation here. There is a clear difference between bodyguards and executive protection agents. This guy might make a great bullet magnet should a potential attacker need some deterrence. However, what Mr. Sutherland needed was a professional with some public relations training. Not just the ability to fight but to think. Training can improve reaction but not intelligence. No donation here.

]]> By: K Northrop http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-59480 K Northrop Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:58:08 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-59480 I can throw in 10, and even a few places to go for training. I can throw in 10, and even a few places to go for training.

]]> By: K Northrop http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-59478 K Northrop Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:51:21 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-59478 I am new to the industry, but have worked Protective Service Details in the past while in the military. I would have to agree with the others in their statements. You should always consider having a designated Bodyguard, but in situations where it doesn't always allow for it, the bodyguard should keep calm, and alert to anything that may pose a viable threat or potentially embarrassing. You do not always have the luxury of having several guys with you, but in situations where you can, then you can easily pass him off to another guy to deal with. Stay with the client, keep him/her safe, and remain alert to your surroundings. Besides, how much more embarrassing would it have been to have lost the client because he/she decided to go into a store to shop while you weren't looking, and now you are having to look for the person that you were meant to protect? I am new to the industry, but have worked Protective Service Details in the past while in the military.
I would have to agree with the others in their statements. You should always consider having a designated Bodyguard, but in situations where it doesn’t always allow for it, the bodyguard should keep calm, and alert to anything that may pose a viable threat or potentially embarrassing.
You do not always have the luxury of having several guys with you, but in situations where you can, then you can easily pass him off to another guy to deal with.
Stay with the client, keep him/her safe, and remain alert to your surroundings.
Besides, how much more embarrassing would it have been to have lost the client because he/she decided to go into a store to shop while you weren’t looking, and now you are having to look for the person that you were meant to protect?

]]> By: Anthony Burnside (Evil Genius) http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-53878 Anthony Burnside (Evil Genius) Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:23:19 +0000 http://www.bodyguardcareers.com/2007/11/27/kiefers-bodyguard-threatens-cameraman/#comment-53878 PS:Never threaten a photographer that makes it personal. PS:Never threaten a photographer that makes it personal.

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